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Tuesday, November 21, 2006

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hooligan

I read the exact same article a couple hours ago, and it struck me in much the same way. I still have her book "Woman" and I thought it was great; I don't believe her telling it the way she thinks it is detracts from the way I think it is. But she does, which strikes me as more than a little ironic. Vive la difference! Until some scientists burn me at a stake, I'll keep saying that. I just don't know why she, as a writer, is so comfortable disposing of the literary and historical significance of Biblical narratives, whether she takes them for foolishness or not. There aren't replacements for them, besides which, any time they want to destroy a civilization, they start with the libraries, so she should watch that rhetoric, in my humble opinion. Because any English major worth her salt knows that the only reason you and I are sitting here blogging is because hundreds of years ago, monks were locked in towers transcribing Bibles. It's beyond ungrateful for someone who makes a living writing. Rant over. Gad! Sorry.

messiestobjects

Hey don't get me wrong; While I realize that the evils of the world are man's own problem, not God's (We all make our own choices), I still hate the fact that religion is a very heavy handed system that has been used to perpetrate many of the world's most heinous acts... If there were a way to keep man's spiritual freedom and abolish religion, I'd be all for it. Being a part of a club has always struck me as suspicious activity, and when that club thinks that all other clubs are going to hell, well, that's just asking for trouble.
But again, people who join those clubs because they truly believe in the principles of good over evil, or even just truly understand the difference between right and wrong, and have actual compassion for all creatures and not just a desire to convert them, well, those types are allllright.
It's those like Christian Republicans on the far right, or that closeted gay meth-head preacher from that church that spent a large part of his career bashing gays until his gay hooker friend got tired of his hypocrisy and outed him, or that crusader guy who famously said "Kill 'em all, and let God sort 'em out", or Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell, who are using religion to spread hate that need to be stopped. I mean, does anybody really think Mama Theresa was spreading evil across the world? No. She understood the meaning of her religion better than any of the aforementioned people and the world needs more like her.

hooligan

Well, you're not busy. Get started.

messiestobjects

Get started on what? I'm not Catholic. My plan is to weed out evil by studying George Bush's brain. As soon as I get the grant, it'll be all go team.

hooligan

Get started changing the world. It appears you've got a plan in place, so run with it.

hooligan

Though not to point out the obvious, you can't study things that don't exist. You might want to change the focus of your grant research.

messiestobjects

Hey Captain Genius, I told you what my plan is for changing the world, and if you don't like my obvious plan, keep it in your shirt!
But seriously, My plan involves weeding out an entire section of the population that thinks mainly with their spinal cord. How, exactly, would you suggest I start going about that, hmmm? Using concentration camps? I mean, voting them out is nice. But that's a group effort, and anyway, unfortunately those types of folk often look like real human beings in the everyday world, no tell-tale spinal tails sticking out of their butts or anything, so it would wind up being a very messy extermination. Not sure I'm prepared to take on that Godly role just yet, which means I'm probably not the Antichrist, after all.
Well I'll tell you the answer: Evolution. Loads of stupid hippies think we've been on the verge of some sort of new phase in human evolution since the Age of Aquarius (which, incidentally doesn't actually start until the year 2600, damn fuzz brained hippie freaks. So the Age of Aquarius must refer to all the stoned retards of the 60s and 70s) so if you want to give me grant money to speed up evolution, I've got a bridge I can sell you, also.

hooligan

This is nice and thought-provoking, containing facts and figures as it does. Speaking of eugenics. http://www.csmonitor.com/2006/1121/p09s01-coop.html

hooligan

Also, I only answer to "Queen Genius" or "HRH Genius". Happy Thanksgiving, turkey.

messiestobjects

You know, I read your last comment several hours ago, and I even totally comprehended the actual words... it's just that, it didn't hit me until just this moment that it actually is Thanksgiving day. I suppose I was thinking, you know, Happy Thanksgiving as in, Happy end of November, much as people go around wishing each other Merry Christmas a ludicrous amount of time before the actual day of Christmas. But nope, it's really Thanksgiving day, and you know what? I totally missed it, because it's about 20 after midnight here in Istanbul, and so it's the day after, for me. Although, I suppose since it's an American holiday, I can get by on the technicality that as it is currently Thanksgiving on American soil, I haven't really missed out. Although since I'm about to go to sleep, I suppose that's thin comfort. And no turkey... WAIT!!! I'm IN TURKEY!!! How sweet is that?! Now if only I was HUNGARY enough to carve up some TURKEY, and I've got nowhere else to go with that stupid line. I got nothin'.
Hey...sort of serves me right for bashin' on the church, I suppose, being all stuck and forgetting major holidays and staying up too late to make really stupid comments in order to compensate for my lack of a big feast. I had sweet and sour chicken and fried ice cream at a posh Chinese restaraunt on Istiklal Caddesi (posh street in Istanbul) for dinner, which was good, really good actually, but not Thanksgiving good. Dumb 'ol Turkey.
Right-e-oh, then. Way past my bedtime.

hooligan

Also: Sadducees = mega-churches. And I totally saw a sign at Hooters yesterday that said "Shopping Makes You Hungary." I knew them girls was smart.

Gary

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/27/opinion/27Shweder.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

If John Locke, Hooligan and the majority of the population of the United States all say I'm no good then it must be so.

btw - that Ministry clip plays way too much, I like it but damn I have to just for the volume control all the time. ;)

messiestobjects

Good stuff, that article. Obviously I am not a religious person, at all, but neither can I ever be comfortable with being an atheist. Agnostic is more my speed... I know that I know nothing; It's nice and Socratic, and middle of the road, which is something both sides tend to hate. But I firmly believe that Science is wholly incapable of ever proving/disproving God, at least in any sort of actually productive manner, and neither do I believe that the beliefs of any religion are strong enough to be emotionally capable of handling the truths that Science discovers, at least not in their own age. It took a long time for the Pope to concede that the Earth is round, like a ball, so maybe in one or two hundred years they'll acknowledge Evolution, too.
God belongs to the individual, and that scares authoritarians, such as religious leaders. Science belongs to everybody, which also scares them.
And about the Ministry clip... I really like it, but I'll put it to a vote; If people overwhelmingly think I should lose it, I totally will. Let me know! But seeing as how this is like, comment 13 on my not-most-recent post, in all fairness if I get an unsatisfactory response, I ask for a recall in a future post.

hooligan

I like the fact that you qualify "round" as "like a ball". Outstanding.

messiestobjects

Just to avoid confusion. You know.

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