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Tuesday, October 23, 2007

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Gary

So you never made it to the underground? I didn't go the last time I was there but I went as a kid and remember it as being a cool place - because it's an old city street under the city. And I was in a bar with velvet pictures of naked ladies.

I went to the aquarium and it was very cool. I really liked the huge glass wall. My son was enthralled with it as well.

messiestobjects

No... I may hit that on Thursday. We'll see. Hopefully when I go, I won't get distracted by like, Bill Clinton giving a free speech in the park or something.

Miss Luongo

That's some good travel luck. Is it against the Dolly Llama compassion/love guidelines to be super jealous of this story? Jeez. I was jealous of the photo in the Rucker book. This is way better than that. It's also a weird coincidence. What do you make of it?

Dad

Wow... I should read your blog more often... coincidence? Well it's certainly curious... BTW, that fractal stuff is mind bending... so I'm catching up to see what's up... It is pretty neat that you ran into this event - the Dali L and all - and while I don't agree with his message as a whole, he does make some good sense about compassion and family values and all... I am an unabashed Jesus freak though and the Truth is still the Truth... to bad so many Christians believe they must attack others to get the point across. Jesus actually spent a lot of time attacking the "church," that is the religious folks, and taught that Loving God and others were the highest priorities... He who has ears... Look forward to seeing you in a week or so

messiestobjects

People, people. It's D-A-L-A-I. Lama. His Holiness, the Dalai Lama. Pronounced Dolly, but not spelled that way. And not like Salvadore, either. And there are no hairy four-footed beasts of burden. Llama. Sheesh.

What do I make of happening to find a picture of the Dalai Lama in a book, and just happening to have it on me a few weeks later when I accidentally and completely randomly happen upon a city on the day the Dalai Lama is to make a free, open to the public speech, and I just happened to get out of the aquarium just in time to decide not to go to the coke museum and on the way to somewhere else just happen to stumble across the park where the speech is just about to take place?

Meh, shit happens. We're all just pieces on the pinball machine of life.

messiestobjects

Dad, I don't know how else to make the point, but those people aren't Christians. They're cute, adorable, anachronistic Fundies, and if there is a hell, they'll be the first ones to go.

Miss Luongo

Duh. Everyone knows it's Dolly Llama!

Fundies claim to be Christians. So, are you saying you can claim to be a Christian and still not be one be virtue of your actions? Conversely, can you claim not to be a Christian but still be one by virtue of your actions?

Gary

disclaimer: the following comment should not be taken internally.

Michael was brought to Atlanta for a very specific purpose: to receive the holy word of the Llama. And then to communicate it back to us, his faithful blog... um... people. My son has been calling his Mama, "Llama Mama" and laughing about it, all week. The Llama also loves to laugh. Coincedence? I think not. Don't deny the Llama.

I say if you say you're a christian then you are. It doesn't matter what your actions are. Who's to say who's the wrong kind of christian? If you do, then I think you're acting just like the guy with the sign. Seems to me the whole thing is like poetry - you can interpret it however you want - unless if you went to a state school. ;) So if you read the bible and decide that Jesus wants you to be the leader of the new master race, then who are we to say it's not christian? You just have a different interpretation and it's probably WRONG. So no, you can't just be one magically by acting a certain way. You have to claim to be one first and make sure that as many people as possible know it. And even then you may be one of the wrong ones. Like Michael said, it's like a big pinball machine, and only some people are lucky or good enough to make it pop.

messiestobjects

That to me has always been the problem with the church. Each and every division is convinced that it has somehow interpreted the Bible better than all the others. Baptists, Congregational, Episcopalian, Catholic, Lutheran... bleh.

I think though, that the actual central message of Christianity is to love thy neighbor and not to trust authority. Jesus, as my Dad said, was all about pissing in the well of the Pharisees. So, taking his lead, I've decided not to trust the Church when it comes to my well-being.

messiestobjects

And to directly answer you Julie about claiming to be a Christian... Well, I think Gary's right as far as it goes, but I also think that I can call myself the King of Germany, but that doesn't make it so.

I think the thing a lot of so-called Christians forget is that back in Jesus' day, there was no Christian dogma, and I think that Jesus hated dogma, and that's what most people are practicing when they call themselves Christians. Also, on top of preaching that whole love and compassion thing, he was also telling people that God was in their own hands, that other people (Pharisees = any modern day religious authority figure) do not have the power to wield ANY religious authority over you. One of his favorite catchphrases was that the Kingdom of Heaven is within. In the church of messiestobjects, we interpret that to mean that you have to look inside to find God, and anyone who disagrees with me is going to hell.

Miss Luongo

Llama Mama! That is funny.

Dad

Llama Mama... dahli Lama... Alah bama... coincidence??? Or... nah, just a bit of nonsense... Hey! my only point here is that, honestly, there is truth out there. I happen to believe that it's embodied in Christ and that's my story that I'm stickin' to... If I can live his "rule"/teaching to love God first and all of you second I think that's doin' a lot and it demonstrates my faith in him... that's all. You choose... thanks for the conversation...

messiestobjects

So, by saying that the truth is out there, you're denying that the Kingdom of Heaven is within, and going with the X-files?

Gary

"I want to believe."

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